Ryli Dunlap
5 min readJan 7, 2025

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"What a twisted narrative you provide to hide or remove from the discussion the real backers of Hamas, Hezbollah and Huthis..."

The primary backers of these particular groups is obviously Iran, though in my opinion, this is well-established fact that doesn't merit wasting further time discussing. What's less discussed is the West's (mainly the USA's) complicity in backing terrorism and proxies as well, so that is what I intended to shed light on.

When have I removed Iran from the discussion? I think this entire discussion has been primarily focused around Iran, and whether or not fighting its proxies will result in a change of regime in Tehran. I've said the word Iran many times. If I understand your position, you claim that fighting Iranian proxies will help 'liberate' Iran. I disagree, and I believe that it will only contribute to maintaining violence in the region, and hardening the Iranian resolve to resist both Israel and the USA.

As I stated before, US-backed meddling and coups were what destabilized a democratic Iran in the first place and created fertile ground for the Islamists to seize power. I don't see how even more meddling and/or attacks from the US or Israel on Iran is going to endear the Iranians to the 'Western' cause. I understand that eliminating the direct threat of Hamas is necessary for Israel's security, but at what cost? The impact the military operations are having on the civilian population of Gaza are doing far more harm to Israel's reputation than Hamas could ever inflict, and fueling the flames of anti-Semitism.

The images of destroyed buildings and carnage in Gaza are the result of US-supplied bombs dropped by Israel, not Al-Jazeera. People around the world are reacting to the actions they see Israel currently engaged in - not driven by propaganda from a country that no longer exists as you seem to claim.

I doubt most people in the West who protest the disproportionality in Gaza consult Soviet-era propaganda prior to forming their opinions. They're driven by the images they see on the news in real-time today, whether those images are delivered by CNN, BBC, FOX, or Al-Jazeera.

I'm left confused by supporters of Israel who demand that every conversation begin with some religious-like recitation or acknowledgement that Hamas is a proxy of Iran. This is bizarre. Why must every conversation waste time stating the obvious? Also, terrorists engage in terrorism largely for attention. This is exactly what Hamas wants: To dominate the narrative and keep the discussion focused on them and their cause. By demanding that we speak of nothing but Iran and Hamas, you're giving them all the attention (and recognition) they crave.

Yes, Chomsky is critical of Israel. He is (or was) also critical of the Soviet Union. His beliefs draw from anarchism. I doubt his opinions are formed on the basis of what Soviet Propaganda told him they should be. If anything, he's regarded as one of the foremost experts in how countries like the USA, Israel and the USSR 'manufacture consent' for wars through propaganda and perception management operations.

Chomsky is also Jewish, I believe. I doubt he's an anti-Semite. He's also not the only Jew that objects to the actions of Israel. Israelis themselves have flooded the streets in protest to the Israeli government's handling of the war, and the hostage situation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Israeli_protests

I doubt these protesters in Israel are driven by Soviet anti-Semitic propaganda.

I am not familiar with Butler and Fraser, so I cannot speak to their views. I do not know whether it's true or not that the 'cling to Soviet narratives' as you claim.

Now that we are on the topic of proxies, has it ever occurred to you that Israel is in fact a proxy of the USA in its larger conflict with Iran? It's odd to be upset only about Iranian proxies when Israel in fact acts as the same for US/Western power and influence. Hamas and Hezbollah attacks Israel with Iranian-supplied weapons. Israel responds by attacking Iran with US-supplied bombs, weaponry and aircraft. It's politically safer for the US and Iran to both fight through proxies. Hamas, Hezbollah and Israel do the fighting risking their lives rather than Americans or Iranian risking theirs.

The same thing is happening in Ukraine: The US cynically uses Ukraine and equips their men to die in a conflict in the hopes of weakening Russia, without risking American lives to accomplish the same goal; all under the guise of 'supporting' or 'standing' with Ukraine.

I know Israel is a proud country that claims sovereignty, but it is being used as a pawn on a much larger Chess board, as evidenced by the large amounts of military aid funneled to it by the USA. Israel's own military leaders admit that they could not sustain the intensity of operations for more than a few months without a constant flow of US weapons and munitions:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-09-02/ty-article-magazine/.premium/without-u-s-aid-israel-would-have-struggled-to-fight-in-gaza-beyond-a-few-months/00000191-aec2-d875-a3bb-aed7e2e30000

"Besides, there are more contradictions in the fragmented world of leftist groups than in the movement of capital."

I completely agree with you on this point. This is certainly the case in my experience - at least here in the USA. Leftist groups spend more time bickering with each other than anyone else. There's also some infighting among right-leaning politics here (such as the Freedom Caucus within the Republican Party who are constantly at odds with more moderate Republicans). But so far, the right seems to have more unity in regards to coalescing around their class interests (and in defending the interests of their wealthy donors).

One big issue in the US is identity politics, which causes the left to obsess over issues like transgenderism and 'intersectionality' rather than focusing on economic issues and initiatives like building strong labor unions. Many Marxist-leaning groups reject identity politics as they see it being detrimental to class unity. Zionism to them is viewed as a manifestation of 'identity politics', which emphasizes grouping or organizing people based on who they are ethnically or religiously rather than by their common economic class interests. This is why Marxists have historically rejected Zionism (as I initially explained in one of my previous comments).

It's also important to note that most Marxists oppose an exclusively Palestinian state for the same reason. This is another thing that leftist groups disagree and clash over. The Marxist solution would be 1 state where all exist with the same rights. Whether that's realistic in the Middle East has yet to be seen. Maybe not in our lifetimes. Maybe not ever if people are more interested in clinging to their religious and ethnic identities rather than uniting under some other common interest.

But, there are examples of other countries in the world where Jews, Muslims and Christians coexist in relative peace and under the same national identity. The USA, Canada and New Zealand for example; and Albania - long praised for its religious tolerance and harmony among those of different faiths.

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Ryli Dunlap
Ryli Dunlap

Written by Ryli Dunlap

Aspiring writer. Recovering programmer. Many opinions — some unpopular. I unload them here. Blog: https://pontifi.co Dance/Music: https://rylito.com

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